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pp's avatar

The Trudeau government released its defence policy, Strong, Secure, Engaged, in June 2017, and specifically Honours and Awards were listed as item 7.

The entire CAF was engaged in the review that took over a year, along with working with other partners (RCMP, GAC and Chancellery) and many reviews which lead to the lowering of days to be eligible for certain service medals and opened them up to other departments and civilians that are part of the defence team.

So your claim of 83 years since the last review is very inaccurate.

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Christopher Banks's avatar

Please read the article again. The article clearly states the system encompasses more than the CAF's role and the review which hasn't happened since 1942 is a Parliamentary review.

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Michael Dorosh's avatar

The Trudeau government also put the brakes on commemoratives (as noted in the article) - no Canada 150 medal and nothing for the Queen's Platinum Jubilee (Alberta did issue one however).

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Michael Dorosh's avatar

The title makes no sense. The honours system was "Canadianized" at the time of our centennial, as the article notes. That isn't 83 years ago.

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Christopher Banks's avatar

The system was not "canadianized", it was a new system created for Canada. The only honour which existed at the time of its creation was the Order of Canada (they were introduced together as the article states), and shortly after also in 1967 the Canadian Centennial Medal. And the article clearly states that a Parliamentary Committee has not reviewed the system as a whole since the Special Committee for Honours and Decorations in 1942.

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Michael Dorosh's avatar

Our system was indeed "Canadianized". The British DSO, MC, MM, DCM etc. were replaced by Canadian awards such as the Medal of Bravery and Cross of Valour in 1972.

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Scott Laird's avatar

It was a poor attempt at "Canadianizing". The British DSO, MC, MM, DCM etc are awards for actions in the presence of an enemy. Canada did not create similar type awards (VC, SMV, MMV) until 1993 leaving a void in the military honours system for nearly 20 years. The CV, SC and MB were created in 1972 as civilian bravery awards and did not replace the British awards noted above.

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Michael Dorosh's avatar

It may have been poorly implemented (by taking too long) but the end result is hardly a "poor" attempt at Canadianization. I find it interesting that the British awards, which we also awarded up until after the Korean War, were revised by the British because they were awarded by rank (read: "class"), something they decided to revisit in 1993, at about the same time we were introducing our own combat awards. The largest flaw in the 'old' system was the inability to award anything but a VC or mention in dispatches posthumously. This has all been rectified and our awards are purely Canadian now, open to all ranks, and able to be awarded even when the soldier has died subsequent to the acts for which they were nominated.

Not coincidentally, the moving away from the very familiar British awards has resulted in Canadian honours recipients being almost completely absent from the public consciousness - very few people today have a clue what an SMV or MMV represent - which is why the continued grousing about a "Canadian VC" continues unabated. As nice a tradition as it is, we'd do well to just abolish the Canadian VC once and for all, and do a better job of promoting our SMV and MMV recipients. My company commander in the reserves was awarded the MMV for commanding a recce platoon in Afghanistan and I don't think even a fraction of those serving in the company had a clue what it was or what he had done.

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